You seem to understand the herders-farmers’ conflicts; kindly provide some insight?
I am a scholar, a professor of
development theatre, in my intellectual career it is my responsibility
to study communities and phenomena and I have over the years made it a
point of duty to deal with issues like crises within the communities and
I have been involved in observing the phenomena of ethnic crisis,
communal crisis, farmers’ crisis, within the middle belt which has been
subsisting for decades now.
I have been a peacemaker, a peace builder, I
am a total pacifist; I hate violence in any form including verbal
violence. So, in observing the trend of the crisis between herdsmen and
farmers within the middle-belt area from 2013; I was alarmed when I
noticed that in 2015 there was a sudden jump in escalation of the
incident that increased since President Buhari took over in 2015, I
noticed that this escalation was based on a systematic process where it
was not just all Fulani herdsmen and the farmers. There was now a new
dimension to the crisis, the new entry was commando-style execution,
gruesome murders of the farmers, the barbarity which showed that there
was a disturbing trend towards the genocide that was now the possibility
and the reality. As there was increased violence because much more than
the usual struggle of the incident of cows being killed and therefore
the grazers come in respect of the killing of their cows or that a
cattle has been rustled and then they come pursuing revenge over the
loss of cattle.
There was an upsurge in attacks in which
the target communities in Southern Adamawa, Benue, Kogi, Nasarawa ,
Plateau, Southern Kaduna and Taraba states was where I found the
phenomena that was really disturbing. The equally disturbing scenario
was that in most of the places where these attacks were being unleashed,
it seemed to me that they were mainly where Christians settled and when
I looked at the fact that when President Buhari took over he had a very
efficient approach towards the Boko Haram. So, I began to study the
possibility of the Boko Haram having diffused itself to become a Plan
‘B’ because the herdsmen terrorism was no longer the usual clashes, this
was terrorism at monumental scale, this was terrorism; that was a world
class definition of terrorism. The herdsmen became the force classified
as the 4th most deadly terrorist group on earth. I was alarmed that it
was not just this area but it was a proliferation, country wide where
herdsmen were conflicted and I became equally disturbed to learn that
the organization had the sultanate and the emirate of Northern Nigeria
which were Fulani in origin and also the President of Nigeria was even
considered as a patron of the Miyetti Allah and I said wow! This is a
pretty heavy stuff and I began to analyze the conversations that were
going on that time and I became alarmed and disturbed because they were
too few structures on ground to prevent the genocide, structures like an
effective legislature, an independent judiciary, an effective national
human rights institution or independent media or a neutral security
force because the more I studied about the phenomena, the more I
discovered that the police and the army that were supposed to be neutral
security forces were recording incidents in which the arms used by the
insurgents were coming from the Nigerian armoury and the corruption that
began to be unveiled of politicians and the easy supply of arms across
the country, with arms market all over; if you go to Niger, you buy an
AK47, it is completely on display, if you go to certain parts of this
country you will see arms being freely sold. I studied the motivation of
the leading actors and there was considerable motivation because the
issue of land in the middle-belt and the fertile land that is irrigated
by the River Niger and the River Benue. The desertification has taken
place in the north and global climate has affected this area and no less
than 20,000 cattle looking for water sources especially in the dry
season, looking for grass and then I looked at the phenomena of
displaced people of Nigerian stock in Darfur, in Libya who are pushed to
come back; who are herds people and if they came back, what would be
means of their livelihood, these people are fighters for decades, they
have been fighting in those environments and as they fight in those
environments, the psychology of instability is already imbedded in them,
they are insurgents and wherever they go, insurgent mentality prevails
in their mind. They want to come back to Nigeria, they reach out to some
Nigerian leaders, Nigerians lived for years in Darfur and now Northern
Sudan doesn’t want us; they are making slaves of us, where do we go? The
only place we can settle is in the Benue valley, people who are there
are not even Muslims, so it makes it easy, considerable motivation for
ethnic cleansing and the borders are porous. So, when I started putting
all the pieces together, I saw that it was possible for genocide of
unprecedented magnitude to creep in on us in a manner in which we are
unprepared. We underestimated the Boko Haram and it grew up like a
phantom into a reality, which we were not able to control till this
moment effectively.
So, was this the reason for your recent letter to the President?
When I wrote the letter to the
President, I was writing to him as a patriot, as a citizen who has
experienced not just at the ordinary level as a legislator or a former
minister; diplomat. I was writing to him with the eye of somebody who
deeply loves this country and know the immensity of expectation for a
great and glorious Nigeria by the international community. Nigeria has
continued to disappoint the world, if we leave outside this country
there is an enormous amount of insult the Nigerians in diaspora receive
constantly on behalf of Nigeria. So, the world is impatient of a Nigeria
that is still sluggishly trying to contain the most basic element of
governance that is to guarantee life and security of the citizens, we
are not talking of a country that has failed to provide infrastructure,
failed to provide electricity, failed to provide water for the citizens.
There are few state capitals in this country that are able to provide
water, ordinary drinking water to the citizens not to talk of an
infrastructure that has collapsed. There are no roads in this country, I
love traveling by road and there are no roads. I recently travelled
from Ado-Ekiti to Abuja and the roads were hell holes, I’m not talking
about Benue which is on the margin of national consciousness because
there is not a single road in Benue that is motorable; when you drive
there, you wished you carried your car on your head instead. The rich
fly in helicopters, they make use of the most expensive bulletproof
SUVs; so, they don’t understand what the masses go through. I had
thought that perhaps if Nigerians were provided with security of lives
then they would pursue their happiness with whatever they can,
struggling and smiling and being told by the leadership to have patience and
they wait but all to no avail. So, I was frustrated and angry that this
was so and the main reason I was upset was that when I received a
letter from the Presidency, a letter which was dated 28th of September,
2016, I was so excited because as a scholar and a public intellectual, I
have written to Presidents both now and in the past because that is
what I love to do. If I observe a phenomenon in any African country as
the President of African Leadership Institute, I’ll write to that
country, sometimes I receive good replies; sometimes not and so I was
very ecstatic that my country’s President wrote to me and thanked me for
my valuable suggestions towards addressing some critical challenges
facing Nigeria. The most critical challenge facing Nigeria in this
letter was to stop the genocide which was certainly being read and which
I predicted was going to take place in particularly Benue and Plateau
states within the next 18 months and so when this genocide took place in
the 17th month, I was very angry. I was angry because the loss of one
life in a democracy through genocide is one life too many and killing as
a genocidal act is different from an ordinary killing. Genocide is a
deliberate plan to eliminate a hated group, whether it’s a race or
ethnic group or a people identified and targeted and what happened on
New Year day in Benue was not an ordinary killing, it was not a communal
clash, it fully fulfilled what I had warned about ‘a horrendous
genocide that will shock the world.’ I had warned about this because the
killings were thoroughly shocking, people sleeping in the night were
being butchered and slaughtered; even the Geneva Convention would not
accept a normal combat during the war where women and children are being
targeted. It is only genocide that kills women and children to stop the
procreation of the hated tribe or ethnicity and to stop the future
generation. So, I was angry, particularly when I saw the reaction of a
country totally numb without a conscience.
We expected sympathy, sympathy for
citizens who were killed in their sleep, sympathy with government of
Benue state as a result of the invasion of the state, leading to the
massacre of individuals, sympathy doesn’t cost anything.
But the President condemned it…
Condemnation is not sympathy; sympathy
is to identify with the suffering. The President was condemning at the
same time receiving Governor el-Rufai and other governors asking him to
go for a second term, the second term agenda became more important than
the lives of citizens that he swore to protect under the constitution of
the Federal Republic of Nigeria but it was worse because I do not
remember any of the northern governors paying a courtesy visit to
commiserate with their colleague for that which had happened in the
state regardless of whoever Ortom is to them, he is their colleague and
it is instructive that the Nigerian Governors should have reacted to
this, although it is an ubiquitous phenomenon. Now, nobody cares; the
lives of Nigerians are so cheap; nobody cares about Nigerians’ lives.
There’s so much lives being wasted in Nigeria, so, I was horrified
because I would have thought things would be done in a separate way. The
President is well; he’s not sick, he could have taken 30 minutes to fly
into Makurdi and pay a condolence visit to Governor Ortom or he could
have sent his Deputy instead; the next thing we saw was a Government in
denial, these are the things that made me very angry but my letter was
not an angry letter.
That means you wrote President Buhari out of anger?
My letter did not express anger, I was deeply disappointed and
I tried to give the President advice that would make him leave a
legacy, I did not insult him. In my letter I never mentioned the word
Fulani like in my previous letter I tried to situate him and his
ethnicity and asked him to protect the Fulani. I am not just talking on
behalf of Benue; I am talking on behalf of Nigeria and Africa. When
Donald Trump talks bad about this country, it affects me too. How can
our leaders be so clueless and visionless, so insensitive and oblivious
to the fact that the masses put them there to do a job? It is like when
you give a man a contract to do a job and then he does the foundation
level and decides to go and build another house without finishing the
first one; that is the Nigerian mentality. Go and ask people, who are
given contracts, they never end, they always ask for valuation so when I
see that in the leadership it worries me. If you are a leader it means
that you are answerable to the citizens, democracy is a government of
the people, which means those who are in power answer to the citizens of
the state. Democracy is a social contract made between the chosen
leaders and the citizens in order to protect the masses. If you allow
the people that voted you to be killed then you have betrayed democracy.
What you mean is that the Federal Government failed in this instance?
It should never have reached the
stage of genocide; the President and the Inspector General of Police and
the Service Chiefs, the Minister of Internal Affairs and the Attorney
General of the Federation have the security report everyday on their
table, they know where arms are being moved, where tension is growing
and they should be able to proactively nick crisis before it starts.
Now, when an Inspector General who appears to know everything simply
says that it was a communal clash, then if he knew it was a communal
clash; has government now come to accept communal clashes and the
killings typified by them, are communal clashes now a normal thing in
the society? When the President said the IG should relocate to Benue,
the people became skeptical because there is an attempt to belittle
where the pain is most acute and an attempt to not honestly define the
nature of the problem. The people of Benue say that each time they are
attacked; it is from Nasarawa state, the authorities ought to have gone
there to find and arrest those who are culpable.
But Nasarawa governor denied the allegation
The President sent the IG and if the
Nasarawa governor denied and he was willing to take the assertions of
the governor; why are they not taking the position of the Benue State
Government? These terrorists did not drop from heaven, it is public
knowledge they attacked Benue either from the Agatu region, Tiv or the
Taraba region. It is a known cell of nomadic terrorists that are
harboured either on the borderline of Nasarawa and Taraba states, it is
the sense in which you apply a leveled system of justice, law and order
on the citizens and they know that one section is not being favoured at
the expense of the other or one person stands accused and you make sure
that you are doing everything to justify the other person you want to
find guilty, it in this circumstance that the disappointment jitters.
Do you support Unongo’s warning that Benue may raise one-million-man army to protect the state?
I am a pacifist; in 2001 when there was
genocide against the Benue people, I was appointed by the Tiv people
among others to find solution, I pursued peace relentlessly and we
approached the Arewa Consultative Forum; we approached President
Obasanjo even though he was the person we accused and held responsible
for that genocide and we made him to apologise to the Benue people for
the massacre, we made him to convene a national conference in Kuru. In
this case, it was a genocide conducted by the government against the
people that elected it; this time the evil is being perpetrated by
herdsmen who are the kinsmen to the President, so it is a double
jeopardy for us. That is why in my letter in 2016, I had told the
President that he should be sensitive to the plight of his people, the
Fulani have suffered so much in West Africa and him being Fulani, the
Fulani are expecting a lot from him, one of the things they are
expecting should not be for him to look the other way so that they could
kill and takeover the land of those unbelievers living on the side of
Benue. I told him that he should understand that he has a multiple
identity as President of this country. So, he should be aware of the
fact that he’s Nigeria’s President, the President of Africa’s biggest
democratic nation; that he is representing all black people on earth and
therefore anytime he is acting, he should be guided by this image of
himself and also someone who provides an even playing field and balanced
system of law and order. I tried to explain to him that in modern times
it is not wise for the Fulani to be roaming on the streets with their
cattle. These people deserve a better life, they are the last nomadic
community yet to be settled, they deserve to go to school, they deserve
to be settled, they need to be looked after and provided for. I defend
the weak, the downtrodden, the voiceless.
What I am saying is that, who are we
going to fight? It is a gorilla war; some people accomplice it with
international terrorists that come across our porous borders and they
are hidden by people in the community, so that the eyes of the security
officials wouldn’t see them, which is very difficult for us to believe,
they carry arms and move them from place to place, they attack in
commando style, they come in groups of 200; sometimes more. It is an
invasion, it is a form of progressive genocide because if you go to
Benue today, there is a whole local government called Guma where the
present governor comes from, the lands there have been occupied by
herdsmen, those who were not killed run for their life into the city and
we have seen horrid pictures of Fulani herdsmen coming into their farms
and cutting farm products and feeding their cattle, they are taking
over their lands and properties. Notwithstanding, I am totally against
those villagers who perpetrate plans to kill the Fulani herdsmen; a
country cannot permit that to happen either. It is the inefficacy of the
rule of law that made me tell the President that he should concentrate
on restoring law and order and the protection of lives and properties of
the citizens of the nation. It will be an uphill task for him to
guarantee electricity and infrastructure, the provision of security is
his best bet.
Is establishment of cattle colonies solution to this perennial issue?
I think that this country is unfortunate
in having leaders who look at any crisis as an opportunity to proffer a
knee-jerk solution; it is even more offensive that all previous
attempts by government to deal with this had failed because you’re
actually now choosing words that add salt to injury. Why would you call
it a colony; is it a Fulani colony or a herdsmen colony or a cow colony,
are the cows going to be there themselves?
There is land involved, the land is taken
from the people, when you say it’s a colony, a colony is defined as a
foreign entity carrying its superior power to an inferior entity, taking
away from that inferior entity the land that they do not have title to
and having colonised it to administer it without the concern or any
input from the parent body. So, it is offensive, it is heartless and it
is reckless introduction no matter how meaningful or how well meaning
that concept is, it is not well thought by the kind of nomenclature it
has acquired. It is even better suited if being called a ranch.
In the last few days, there have been calls for declaration of emergency in Benue; what’s your take?
When the country has not declared a
state of emergency in Borno state where there is Boko Haram, how does it
declare a state of emergency in Benue? It is the final signal that
Nigeria is heading towards its own demise and I say this with great
caution because if you declare a state of emergency today, what stops
the President from declaring a state of emergency on the whole country?
This is banana republic mentality. The truth is that there are ground
rules to be followed; the government knows what the right thing is. The
Benue state governor from records told the President that the people are
planning genocide, they have threatened that they do not like the laws
that Benue state people enacted, so they are going to come and kill us
and no one has denied this, they threatened and even now they are still
threatening and what is so sacrosanct about arresting the leadership,
charging them for genocide, putting them on trial and seeing that the
due process of law is taken against them. It will be unfortunate to
expect that the President will
use such executive rights to establish a state of emergency on a
government of his own party in which the governor has been begging him
that the herdsmen are threatening to commit a crime and nothing was done
about it till it came to pass.
If you were the President, what will you do?
If I were President Buhari, considering
the love with which Nigerians clamoured for him to come into power, he
should get back a little ovation before he exits from the stage. So far,
if there is a general poll taken in the country today, the majority of
the people are unhappy, the duty of the government is to make the people
happy and not to ask the people to give us a little time and then
accuse them of being impatient. But in this case, the President is not
asking for a little more time, he is authoritatively asking us to be
patient and in turn lamenting about Nigerians not being patient, so we
do not know how long the patience should last because a man that comes
to power and asks us to be patient for many months before he will come
out with his key officers and ministers is already undermining democracy
which has a specific number of years, maximum 8 years. If in 4 years
the President is still blaming other people for corruption without him
directing a well-structured economic policy which would aid the
corruption fight because the fight against corruption needs to be backed
up by a strong economic plan. The President didn’t have an economic
adviser for a very long time; I still don’t know who his policy adviser
is. There is an organisational structure which is embedded on top of a
pre-existing political culture where the PDP of yesterday metamorphosed
into the APC of today and they are not sinners whereas the others that
stayed back at the PDP are the sinning people. I believe that Buhari is a
great man and I know that Nigerians believe that too because they
easily forgive him of all his wrong doings almost like Donald Trump is
forgiven for whatever character or aberration he has. Buhari is forgiven
just as much, mainly because he fought corruption in 1984 and part of
‘85 and it didn’t work because his dealings were epitomized by
corruption, raiding people after the effect, meanwhile what he was meant
to do is a foundational tackling of corruption through the formal
educational and institutional level where the Nigerian society as we
want it should be planned and the plan should be executed diligently so
that Nigeria will emerge an honourable and just society. For him, it’s
all about arresting people and declaring the fantastic sums that are
stolen and then the court process is endless. Why can’t he get the
legislature or the judiciary to establish special courts for corruption,
why is he finding it difficult to jail people that he claims they stole
money and why are the people beginning to accuse the people within his
establishment of being beneficiaries of corruption? Every regime claims
to fight corruption, it is when they leave that we know that perhaps
they were corrupt or not corrupt and we will never really know. It is
not a meaningful thing to pursue corruption through the system of money
raised in people’s homes but by institutionalization of processes of
accountability. It is very nice that certain steps have been taken like
the BVN and the accounting procedure now where all of the federal
government’s accounts are put in one source rather than scattered across
the banks; and they were taking the liberty of doing whatever they
wanted with public funds. This society needs to be restructured and it
should be restructured from the very basic, the educational system needs
to be restructured completely and over-hauled, we need to emphasize on
it. I specifically said that he came into power on the basis of northern
unity, when the minorities of the north namely, Plateau, Benue,
Nasarawa and Kogi states voted for the APC and these states were
predominantly PDP states but they voted for him and in that moment it
showed a semblance of northern unity. An incident like this type of
genocide takes place and it’s not an attempt to rally them up, it is not
an attempt to identify a holistic northern policy which would have
become relevant if he identified the most basic needs of northern
Nigeria which is undoubtedly education. School enrolment went down
during President Buhari tenure in Nigeria from having 10 million
children outside school we have 13million pupils outside school and his
budgetary allocation has continued to diminish year after year and while
the economy has already experienced an inflation, it means that his
present 7% to education is 6 or 5% compared to previous regime who at
some point allocated 10% to education also. A person like this is
conflicted and should not take all the problems because he cannot do
everything within a year and he should not tell us to give him another
four years because what we’ve seen in this 4 years leaves very much to
be desired; we don’t think he can do better than what he has done.
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